And that is their right, IMO. This is where the word cult shows some utility it can be used to designate a group which has morals that differ from the culture surrounding it. Scientology was. Age 92. Did you miss this from my reply? He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. And yet Scientology has this utterly dysfunctional policy of forbidding these drugs to treat the brain. Grief Support Group Schedule . What if Tayler was your daughter? You see, I feel that we must be very careful with mixing the religious aspect of Scientology with its psychotherapeutic aspect. If someone told me I was joining a church I would have run for the door. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. But, IMHO, the biggest part of the general upset has been created by misapplication and by a fundamentalistic, fanatical approach to policy and Tech. So we present Cathy Tweeds statement and her memorial video. Eventually even insurance companies were covering chiropractic care. He is somewhat psychotic, actually, you know, a little like LRH himself got. Theres your little sermon for the day. She never returned to the church. Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. Its psychology and psychology that are not allowed-not that Im ok with that. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. Uhmmm, makes me wonder.. Search. I am just curious, I am not challenging you. Sure. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. I dont have a specific with this particular case or episode, thats down to the people involved and those who felt they should have been more of an influence, or less of an influence with this story and tragedy. Now, the anti-Scientology movement will try to get us to believe that most Scientologists doesnt believe in medical doctors, and that they never seek proper medical treatment. But I cant help but wonder if she would stil be here if her family was willing to look beyond the blinders of their belief and get her some actual mental health treatment. Seeking criminal convictions is not a correct path, as if after 67 years nothing criminal has been able to hold except the Snow White Operation then is very unlikely that this will ever happen in any near future. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." But I realized that he just DIDNT care if others were invalidating a Scientologist left and right, as long as the attacks werent too viscous or too repetitive from one specific poster. And Im not even past 55 yet! Leah Remini Scientology and the Aftermath, Leah Remini's Scientology and the Aftermath, Scientology Applies to Renew Arrest Warrant for Gerry Armstrong, Interview With L Ron Hubbard's Personal Nurse, The Truth Rundown TampaBay Times Articles, Vanity Fair Article on Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise & Scientology, Scientology and The Death of Kyle Brennan, Chronology of Publications on Scientology. I do think Mike Rinder shouldve spoken up and recommended, Hey lets find another story where it is more apparent that the tech was a major factor in a suicide. C) Getting the person to move to a non stressful environment and to temporarily get away from hostile people and environments. Hubbard had some harsh words for medicos and learned men, in general. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. No religion has the freedom to deny medical care that then results in death. I cant fault you on your logic., Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation., Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. They told this story. And there are drug treatments for depression and other brain illnesses which are sometimes-to-mostly effective, and which do not at all interfere with any spiritual development. Seems that most of her information came from FB and text messages that Tayler had with a friend. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. Most is like talk therapy. I can sympathize with trying to use ones frame of reference to help their kid. My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. Are they, really? Since thats the post youre commenting on? I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). Ill check that out too. And they are all good friends, as far as I know. Is my post to be interpreted as that I think that ALL psychotropic drugs are harmful for the patient, and that at no moment any of them should be used to help someone? You seem to be on the fence. However, cause of death was not disclosed. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. Ok Alanzo, thanks! Does that sound familiar to anyone was in?. And it is that which makes it unfair; not their desires to expose the abuses themselves. With that being said, let's further investigate the truth and . Ratings. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor!. So much for the anti-Scientology narrative regarding Scientologists not using or seeking proper medical care. Mr. Tweed was born in Washington County and son of the late Eugene & Lena Ball Tweed. I agree with most of your points that you have discussed with Alanzo, except for the above one. Born in Panama, he came to the United States in 1984 after earning his medical degree in Brazil at Universidade Federal de Santa Maria, and completed his residency in internal medicine through a. Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. Maybe you are just a willing participant to their manipulation. Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? This is what I call being fair to all sides!! Would Scientology allow Tayler to see a psychiatrist accredited by the American Psychiatric Association? We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. Why are you not calling out Scientologys ways of handling these situations? How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? And unfortunately, human misery and tragedy have entertainment value. Now, a Scnist may not hold a medical doctor in the same regard as a non-Scnist, but that does not mean they do not utilize their services. Rest in Peace Taylor, I will always remember you as a firecracker and kindhearted soul who wanted to save the world. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? Funny, I thought that I had already answered it. Do you know that something called Critical Thinking exists? In fact I flat out refused to do it. Thats tough for me to get past. I bet the if were the case of your own deceased daughter being shown in national TV while making you guilty, you would then think and speak differently. The second half which concerned Tayler Tweed did make me feel uncomfortable because I kept thinking about how devastating this must be to the mother and other relatives. Theyre telling peoples stories. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. She was a friend as well. Dont get me wrong, She is a GREAT artist, and she seems to be a GREAT lady. Can be really call that a Desire at reformation? If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. I am so grateful for my amazing parents and brother, whose love is unconditional, and support unwavering no matter how bad or misguided my youth was. There are many different sorts. It does appear the mother attempt to coordinate care for her daughter at some level. Or am I going too fast? So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. That they were independent minds working independently of each other. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. Harry James Tweed, 65, was a life-long resident of Cape May County, moving to Cape May at the age of seven months, to Rio Grande in 1959, and later to Middle Township. Are you following me all right so far, dear Henri Chef? Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. A PAB 6 Handling which basically consisted of A) Daily extroversion using Take a Walk and Look Them Over processes from the Problems of Work book. I dont happen to resonate with that belief system, but I think its the right path for some people at this moment in their spiritual journey. Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. And how could someone stand right next to her kid in a ticket line at the airport or at the funeral and say nothing. I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. You dont know me. Youll be send back in a plane (if thats how you got there) to your home to go see a licensed medical doctor, get properly treated, and once you are DONE, go back WITH the evidence that you did so. After the incredible inflow of Crazy hatred being generated by the show and coming in as comments on my blog the overwhelming majority of which I have trashed I am actually concerned for Cathy Tweeds safety. Getting rid of David Miscavige as Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is. This is Taylor Tweeds mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylors suicide being featured on A&Es Scientology and the Aftermath. This is about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe. He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. This is pathetic and sad. And if the HE goes, then THEY would start acting sane. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken; (End of quote). Tyler Tweed Obituary has been recently searched in a more significant amount of volume online, and moreover, people are eager to know What Was Tyler Tweed Cause Of Death. Nice try, Thetaclear. She was 27. For now, we cant expect many resources from Tyler Tweeds family as they are not in the right mood to describe Tyler Tweeds death. VETERAN Obituary H.L. Your search results for obituary: 26 newspaper articles contained information about obituary filtered by: Date from: 1st Apr 1973 - Date to: 30th Apr 1973 Whereas the Aftermath program clearly had Facebook messages from Tayler asking for help, and of Cathy pushing Tayler away. Shes not trying to look like the good guy, shes giving her side of the story. My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. Bethel Baptist Church of Greeneville. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. It is a dangerous brain illness. You seem to know that if they only did what YOU wanted them to do that Taylor would be alive today. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. But if my honest attempts at correcting anyone doesnt yield good results and sensible reformations, them I am obliged to act according for the greater good. And like me, there were others who had to do the same. I enjoy the show. A very small price to pay for helping somebody. Lets analyze this for a minute, shall we? Well, TC, a compelling posting, indeed. , Good point, I give you that! I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. I went to see a doctor, did the tests, was found with my triglycerides very high, and my blood pressure high enough so as to be put on a special diet (I used to eat a lot of junk food back then; now, I dont), which I did long enough to get everything back down to normal. Naturopaths? Also, orgs pretty standardly recommend parishioners seek medical treatment for a physical condition. I dont think you do. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions.. James Cooper Jr. Tony Lakeith McCowin. Need help? Perhaps, we are starting from a different definition of Correct Public Relations. Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? Tayler, feeling herself worse off after her last auditing cycle and a recent break-up, refused more auditing. Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? One sane and balanced comment, at last! This test (questionnaire, which was mostly done unmetered) was usually done by me, as I was kind of famous for spotting troublemakers even without the e-meter, and on the spot. Does he read minds now? Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. In fact, the year after may still be the same day. She has no responsibility over the content of the episode she was in. This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. OF COURSE, that I dont mean that. We were trained to be able to raise above our own cases, and to keep our Acts One in (Straightwiring out the reasons why we didnt want to help a certain PC). So lets look at this. He, along with Marcus Daly and Frederick Heinze, was one of the three "copper kings" so eloquently portrayed in C.B. We let them do courses, but not to get processed, until some evidence of case stability was evident. That Scientology limits its treatment to exercise, PTS handlings and vitamins is very suppressive. It isnt true that Scn doesnt believe in doctors. You wonder how could they? Yeah. I am no expert at Public Relations, but I am no amateur, neither. I never allowed them to change my basic personality. Hypocrisy!! Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! And then over 2 years later, Tony Ortega brought in a licensed family therapist, Rachel Bernstein, to psychoanalyze the quotes from Cathy Tweeds which were made the day after her daughters funeral. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. She was regularly having suicidal thoughts and always been sent to auditing or naturopaths instead of to a competent mental health provider. This lady decides to go to the police to report this physical and sexual abuse from her own husband. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. It is even doubtful if full healing can be accomplished by medical treatment alone and it is certain that an assist greatly speeds recovery. Can you really look in the mirror and say you did everything you could (breaking the bank/spending money is one of the easiest things to do by the way because it is putting the responsibility of the real work onto others). COINCIDENTALLY enough, what Ortega, Jeffrey Augustine, Shelton, Aaron Smith-Levin, and Mike Rinder post, are in PERFECT synchronicity about the SAME EXACT subjects. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? Carl Smith, Jr. Georgie Ann Glaser. I could not do anything like that. Yep ,,,, I am beginning to believe the man at the top is deliberately creating situations to implode the group,, He has already positioned himself into the only one category Tech Dict: All criminals are in that bracket ,,, His tone floats around the hostile band, and his ideals are clearly MEST related ,,, The Org Bd has long since been dropped and by-passed in favor of command channels only. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. You end up having to lie and cover over important information and over simplify things to mold disconnection into a weapon that creates a moral panic around scientology. Ah, and here is the information about Dr. Breggin. The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. As far as journalism goes you getting all sides of the story Leah and Mike suck. in a process because allegedly she still had not voiced the correct EP. But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. Leah and Mike added nothing as in no new information to Tony Ortegas 2 year old story. Many critics are so focused on moral issues that they pound away at things that simply do not matter, thankfully, to any government. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. But the rest of the post was about trashing it all as he ALWAYS DO. Here is what Dr. Breggin has to say about that : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/interviews/breggin.html. http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tad-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. Hundreds or thousands (or even millions) individuals thinking in one direction, against a few of us who got tired of being one-sided and used as sheeple to support a narrative made up of injustice, generalizations, and desires for punishment and revenge. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor.. Also, the Rachel Berenstein commentary on the mothers comments > dismissive hearsay. Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. I think that we all need a second chance at redemption, forgiveness, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings. Born January 15th 1928 in County Donegal and died peacefully on January. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public. A LOT, I assure you, one of them being myself, and another being the mother of my daughter. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. But I dont see him getting into a plane and going to Texas to help. Our rate of success? Lets follow your logic with an analogy, shall we? Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? I remember him saying something along the line that a Cult required a leader and some form of organization, and a belief system, and that there just wasnt any coordinated effort with specific leaders to destroy the church. As you probably know, thats from the Bible quoting Jesus. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. I mean, how hypocritical can one get? Find 3 people named Tayler Tweed along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. Obituary Marshall - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday December 14, 2022, in Iowa. . Mary, no offense, but you are either naively buying into what Mike Rinder and Leah Remini are saying in The Aftermath because you dont know much about Scientologys policies as you were never a Scientologist yourself, or you were involved with Scientology but were not very familiar with its policies. Because they learned tha often more effective than medical treatment. However, most Scn watchers do not have the time, resources, or capacity to explore all facets of a Scn-related event. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? This link is about the dangerousness of many psychiatric treatments by a psychiatrist himself, Dr. Peter Breggin : Now, many anti-Scientology individuals will say that Dr. Breggin works for Scientology, or is or was a Scientologists, just because his narrative is similar in many ways to the one used by CCHR. Regular medical care is allowed though Hubbard did and members do tend to look down on traditional medical care. Will they reform? Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? Leahs career before The Aftermath was practically non-existent. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of plain stupidly from the anti-Scientology camp! Anyway, my comment above had to do with the notion that the church does not treat the mentally ill. This seems to me like an ASC false datum that fits their agenda and theyve convinced others that its true so now its an everybody know, like so many of their assertions. Maybe if she had felt more support in her own family or in her own mother, instead of being publicly criticized by the very people whom should always be on her side, she wouldnt have taken such drastic measures. : https://alanzosblog.com/critics-scientology-withdraw-support-direction-season-2-scientology-aftermath/. Yes, I know that they would be refused service. They were robotically and literally interpreting these EPs and confusing them with the Purpose Section of each Objective process. She was a loving mother and enjoyed crafts, cooking, quilting, painting . I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. Im pretty sure this tactic of trying to put you in Cathy Tweeds shoes is not getting through to you. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. B) A thorough medical examination by a REAL doctor to locate possible deficiencies, and unknown illnesses or injuries; and a professional medical treatment done on whatever was found. Getting rid of David Miscavige? The reason for this is because I am about to . On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). This is part of the STANDARD policy to handle, insanity (mental illnesses), what LRH called Sources of Trouble, and physical healing. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. Yeah, THANK YOU, Laura. And as to people like my dad, well, Scientology starts as basic self help courses with a strong pop psychology aspect to them. Cuts both ways. Today, I would just get those to sign a waiver, if I were to audit them. The whole diatribe about spreading hate is something someone says because they dont like the message. But what we have from BOTH sides is the dramatization of a huge Service Facsimile (You are wrong; I am totally right), that totally blind both parties from sensible communication. To the contrary, I believe it had everything to do with her suicide and her mother is a robotic, lying piece of shit. What she went through is horrific. Lauren detailed her friendship with fellow second-generation Scientologist Tayler Tweed, whom she met as a teen fresh out of the Sea Org. Doh! No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. Mrs. Tweed was a longtime member of Chestnut Grove Community Church and worked in the health and food industry for several years. I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. Its often hard to predict who is truly suicidal. Mike Rinder DAILY post at his blogs stories NOT related in any way (save for when an The Aftermath show is aired) to specific abuses, but mostly trying to prove to his sheeple that the church is not as big as they claim it is, how the buildings are empty, how the Volunteer Ministers really dont help anybody, etc, etc, etc, etc. Many people who arent involved in Scientology believe in that. But okay. And its the most insidious problem with what Leah and Mike are doing.. You know, thats EXACTLY the problem with the AGREED UPON anti-Scientology narrative, Claire, that you take as facts statements that are NOT necessarily facts, and that ACTUALLY, are assumptions not backed up by ANY evidence whatsoever, but which are mostly based on HEARSAY evidence (someone told me that he heard.. kind of thing). I am tired the shit of you guys. Dec. 4, 2022. She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. 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