Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. Done. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. Absolutely love them. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you Pick something and follow it. CTD is my last choice. Shame! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. With support like that, who needs Everytown? Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. And then maybe. Thats how capitalism works. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. Have you not been following this story? There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Could be paperweights. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. Especially ones outside Chiraq. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! Rock River Arms had one seat. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? Henry and Ruger for the win. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. F$&@ Ruger too! Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Accurate and precise for And rra. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. Damn shame. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Glad I happened upon this article. This companys name is Mudd. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. This story is libel. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. Its a freakin disaster. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. AR Parts. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Of course there will be others that benefit as well. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Its sad but it happens. Neither excuse is a proper justification. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Customer service beyond any reproach. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. Since 2002. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? However, the R-51 is a bear to clean and still hasnt proven itself totally for CC, coming off its well documented ill fated Gen 1 launch and Remingtons continued reliability issues. Might want to rethink Ruger as well. About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. Damage done. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. Now they will pay the price. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. The Springfields looked to be a good value. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. More interesting question: can Springfield even attempt to disavow at this point? NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Your Price: $744.13. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. If discounted to $0, maybe. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. How many Illinois politicians wind up going to jail? WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. Make this a massive intractable mess. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! County fairs? There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. SA created it). WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. Layoffs to follow. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. it Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. That should be true. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Cancelled orders? I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. I used to have a TRP. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. Other places have them for $200.00. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. Gun owners should have bankrupted Ruger immediately, but they didnt. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Good for them, too. My time stinks apparently. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. If youve already implemented them, great. I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. AR-15 Parts. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. This says a lot about the people running the company. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. They ignored it. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Fight it. Companies move all the time. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. business or not your customers are your lively hood. 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